This week the podcast is live from Instagram Live. That is, once Jon turns on his phone.
Once that load of old nonsense is out of the way our intrepid reporters bring you a fresh heap of more design-related nonsense: Facets, printers, telegram love, Hero Forge and space history are all up for discussion.
Then settle down and pull the tartan rug over your knees as Grandpa Rob explains social media to Granddad Jon.
Grandpa Rob forgot his teeth so no pie for him. Grandad Jon gums his way through a bizarrely-named Zanzibar bean and coconut pie.